mykola ilchuk, an advocacy expert from the safe roads advocacy company, is already in touch with us. mr. mykola, congratulations , glory to ukraine. good evening, glory to the heroes. we will also talk about toll roads, but first about this, you know, initiative to change the colors of traffic lights. this, well, considering that the situation at the front is extremely difficult for us, probably, during the entire full-scale war, looks like a certain blasphemy over what is happening in the country now. on the other hand, we are not experts, right? accordingly, we are turning to you, as a specialist, to help us figure out how timely it is now to update the colors of the traffic lights, for example, from emerald green to emerald green, how it will look in general, because from the point of view of many public figures, this looks like a chance to launder a certain amount of state budget money, maybe we are wrong, but i understand your question, it...

correlates with how this news was perceived by the networks, and it was also interesting how the media, some telegram channels, presented it, obviously, they aimed to, well, exclusively collect more views from people, although what actually happened, but let me tell you one key thing: the emerald green color is not changed, green, as it was green, it remains green, and the only uh... the only key thing that will happen is that the shade of green will be changed, that is, it will become this emerald, but damn, i'm sorry for such a naive question, well, green, well, dark green, well, light green, well, it remains green, that's all, where did such a wonderful idea come from, forgive me for being so simple, well, i won't tell you where the idea came from, why it appeared now, but this is ukraine's approach

to european countries, and these are, let's say, not requirements, these are european union norms, their green color is precisely an emerald shade, and the way it is indicated at traffic lights, how the arrows are indicated, this is bringing our dstu closer to european standards, i heard that maybe people with color blindness will be better able to distinguish traffic light colors, but i don't know if this... corresponds to reality and is there really a difference between green and emerald for people who have difficulty distinguishing colors, but the question here is, in general, how much state money will be spent to switch to these new standards, and is it really that important now? well, i'm not a representative of the ukrainian auto dollar or i don't manage finances, but in this regard i... i think

i can reassure you and the audience, because there is no mandatory transition to this emerald, all traffic lights in the country without exception, after the implementation next year no one will rush to change, and these innovations actually concern the installation of new traffic lights, when a new traffic light is installed or when , after the service life, when the old traffic light can no longer be installed or breaks, only then will these green sections be replaced with newer ones. and with this own emerald shade, so some billions of dollars to replace all the traffic lights in the country should be spent right now , but you can always stick it on with a rocker, you know, not to change the glass, not to dismantle the traffic light, not to block the street, but simply to cut out a rocker of a different color and stick it on, in principle, it is not difficult to do, but you can take a brush and draw something there, okay, jokes aside, we are talking about serious stories, in particular about the safety of our roads, we understand that bringing

us to european standards is primarily about the safety of both drivers and pedestrians on the roads, and here we are doing a hey-hey, you know what, you know, that is, i understand that the number of drug addicts driving has increased, yes, this is a question for the patrol police, for the accompanying services, so to speak, which are supposed to catch them, track them and punish them, on the other hand, we understand that they may still be consuming some antidote there. paratroopers and so on, well, somehow the number of road accidents is not falling, not decreasing, although we understand that all the services are working extremely actively, and accordingly the situation in the cities, we understand that they have again reduced the number of kilometers a little bit, reduced the number of kilometers per hour, but still, maybe there are some critical areas on city roads that should be brought under some kind of common denominator, well, conditionally speaking, there on a certain area at that... other

intersection there were three accidents there during the year and accordingly the local authorities would be obliged to take some additional measures, well, some kind of concept. i would like something more powerful, i understand you, i agree that i agree, and statistics, unfortunately, agree that the number of accidents, and in particular the number of accidents with injured and dead, unfortunately, despite the war, it is not, it is not decreasing, the number of dead is increasing, and if we talk about why it is so, there are many reasons, but if we look at the statistics, more than 50% of dead in road accidents, the reason is speed, exceeding the permitted or safe speed, no matter how, well, maybe banal, maybe someone will not like it, or there thinks, we can assume that well, well, like speed, well, yes, this is so, this must be recognized, this must be accepted, our roads

in cities, in settlements, and also in those settlements that are on highways, they are not safe, drivers do not adhere to the established speed limit, the police... cannot cover all the places to detect this speed, and if they do detect it, the fines are ridiculous, the fine for, you know, there is such a problem called circular liability, because in dnipro , a minor driver in a bmw caused an accident, they cleared him from the first time, and this time, unfortunately, he killed a person, and well, we are talking about certain such malicious violators, moreover, a 17-year-old person has no right to drive at all. there are also questions for parents, why buy a bmw for a child, give them the opportunity to drive it, but also many questions for the law enforcement system, which gave this violator the opportunity to get behind the wheel again and commit another violation that led to fatalities. what to do about it

? this is a big problem. we remember the story of zaitseva. it had a huge resonance. this led to the fact that in ukraine they even changed the approach to issuing the first driver's license. which is now being issued for two years, it was after this resonant accident that certain changes took place in our country, but it seems that every time some terrible accident has to happen in our country in order for us to draw attention to this or that problem, and we solve these problems. yes, you gave, well, i won't say that it is good, but a successful example with the zaitseva accident in kharkiv, and what happened yesterday in dnipro is also of course terrible, and well, unfortunately, we have such a situation that until something like this happens in our country ... such, let's call it trash, something very impudent, they are not starting to do anything about it, now, recently, a group of people's deputies, with our participation and co-authorship, registered a bill, we called it a bill against reckless drivers, this is a bill that determines

the possible creation of penalty points in ukraine, and it was created so that such drivers, who are shown on screens, unfortunately, who are forced to... show, what are not written rules for them, he violates 10, 20, 100, 500 times a year, receives a fine, this fine is negligible and pays is not afraid of anything. in this bill , we propose that for just such violations, he hit a pedestrian, did not give him the right of way, for such violations as not giving the right of way to pedestrians, driving on a yellow-red light, overtaking where it is not allowed, in general, driving at an intersection, if a driver commits these violations two or three times a year, he will simply... be deprived of his driver's license, we hope that such a bill will attract attention, especially after this incident, and it will be voted for, and it will give a certain time the result, but here it is necessary , you understand, the will of the people's deputies.

and finally, we wanted to talk to you about the fact that toll roads may appear in ukraine, i understand this, this is also a requirement of the european union, in order for us to meet these... criteria, and what roads in general can we talk about and how quickly these specific roads, perhaps, which you know about, will become toll roads? and the information that was actually heard, it is not, let's say, so complete, or did i not see that this was a requirement, maybe it is recommendation of some bodies of the european union, and it was about e and and it was about the roads that we are considering for this, these are six roads, that is, obviously these are not... the largest such arteries of ukraine, probably these are international highways of the m06 kyivchop type. the practice of the european union shows that it is important to make roads not so much toll, but that it is important to make roads safe first of all, that is, you pay not just

to collect money, you pay in order to build roads that will be safe, that will not be dangerous intersections, there will be, well , wider, let's say, wider. more lanes, they will not pass directly, the main thing is that there will be no sharp turns, blind spots and so on, so this is what we are talking about first of all, it is very good that the european union... is paying attention to this, because in the issues of ukraine's integration we have not seen any problems with road safety at all, we hope that when they pay attention to this, maybe this will be another incentive for our deputies, officials, to somehow really affect road safety . thank you, ms. myko, mr. myko, mykola ilchuk, an advocacy expert from the road security company, talked about the situation on the road in ukraine and about this news. as for traffic lights, well , mr. mykola reassured us, he says that they will not replace the existing traffic lights, and perhaps

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the information day of the tv channel is underway, we are in touch with volodymyr tsybulko, political scientist, political expert, poet and writer. glory to ukraine, mr. volodymyr, i am glad to see you, indescribably. glory to the hero. well, you know, i wanted to unite, well, i think that you are one of the few who can , so to speak, synthesize what is happening in the world now, with a projection on certain processes that are taking place in our beautiful. uh state, yes, here is alena shkrum, people's deputy from the homeland,

supposedly resigns her mandate, but if you believe, so to speak, people's deputy honcharenko, that supposedly shkrum is leaving the council due to a potential appointment in the cabinet, if you believe honcharenko, she is going to head the new ministry of unification of ukrainians, well, the story about shkrum - this is actually what we understand, perhaps a certain indicator of the things that will now happen in us. except perhaps in the cabinet and not only in the cabinet, so trump came and a huge continental rush begins, i.e. scholz to kyiv, anna lenobert to china, szijjarto to moscow, i.e. we are entering an extraordinary situation, we already, you know, were not worried, well, but we are entering a very tough political turbulence, and we do not know what will come of all this, but if we apply these huge geopolitical processes to our modest ukrainian political reality, i.e. that

shmyhal may have to thank the people and the parliament for their trust or not. because the new administration in the united states, accordingly, perhaps it will there be any other, i don't know, counterparts there? well, what's important here is, in general, whether they see, let's say , in the trump team, whether they see one of the main demands for the ukrainian authorities to restore the operation of the constitution, because so far there have been no statements about, well, let's say, a deviation from... the norms of the country's main law from the american team, the new trump team, in this sense, uh, perhaps, ukrainian society could first ask for a return to the operation of the constitution, and only then figure out who is who, because in essence

there is a chain of actions in which the initiative of ukraine is lost, that is, in essence now i look at which delegations visit kyiv every day, and the impression is that for ukraine some rather passive place is being formed in the big scenario, that is, a place in the team of the brightest, the brightest, that is, in europe, but this place is not really under the sun, it is so quietly in the shade, that is , i would say that it is such a... er, relatively speaking, as in the classrooms there were kamchatkas, where inattentive students sat, and there is a feeling that a new one is beginning with ukraine, especially the european union team, working as with a foreign student, which is interesting, which seems to be by all indications that annalena berbuk

is in china, that scholes is in kyiv, it looks like the subjectivity of the european union is growing. and the responsibility for security in europe will be transferred entirely to european countries, here for ukraine there is actually a good chance, if the ukrainian authorities had some visions on this subject. mr. volodymyr, don't you think that it might be beneficial for the authorities to solve the problems now with adults, children and other actors in europe, or somewhere outside europe in the indo-pacific region or in... in america, because, well, zelensky in each of his interviews is already starting to present a more realistic picture of our reality, he says that right now we don't have enough army, forces to recapture the occupied territories, he says that getting a nato satellite, at least for those territories that are now under the control of official kyiv, is essentially a life-saving option for us.

among all that are available to us now, he doesn't say that we have to give up these territories, he says that we... can return them through diplomatic means, this is a separate conversation, how is this even possible, but the fact that now we see the initiative on the side of our partners and the desire of our authorities to somehow shift this responsibility for the outcome of this war onto our partners, don't you notice this? and this is not even a question of responsibility, well, our partners behave exactly the way they behave, and they are ready to take a certain amount of responsibility, for example... they are not ready to take certain steps, this concerns issuing permits, how it dragged on for a long time, we should not simply overestimate our partners, they are, so to speak, very, very optimistic people, very democratic, but in reality they are very tough, and, for example, they were not going to enter the war on the side of ukraine, they did not offer contingents for reinforcement

and so on, that is, well, they talked about it in words, but in fact, in fact, so to speak, their... also, we should not underestimate, here is a small remark, there is one point here, if the ukrainian authorities at the beginning said: give us a quarter of the price, and that will be enough for us , well, they gave a quarter of the price, that is, if, if we needed, well, normal, normal tanks and artillery, but at the beginning the authorities said: "give us there, well, some javelins will be enough for us, or they didn't ask for anything at all." it seems to me that it got to the point that when zelensky came up with his victory plan, where is the point, one of the most important was accepted. ukraine into full membership in nato, so wait, you have done everything in the 5 years of your presidency to distance ukraine from nato.

in general, in the first year of your presidency you did not go to the nato summit at all, then you went to vilnius for the nato summit, you were scandalized there, and that's where it all ended. and now, when it's hot, you will grow at every turn, about giving us nato membership. by the way, an interesting date. the summit of foreign ministers is approaching on the fourth, nato members, nato countries, and here it would be important for some signal to be sent to us regarding granting membership, an invitation to nato, and look, mr. volodymyr, it seems that andriy sebiga, our minister of foreign affairs, was requesting, in fact, while preparing for this summit, that we be given an invitation this week, this looks absolutely absurd. because we understand that no one will give us an invitation this week, but these diplomatic actions on our part, they mean something, that is, they signal some certain

things that we have to do publicly to make it clear, so that it is heard somewhere, so that maybe somewhere, well, you know, we did it, it must be very clear specific feedback, we cannot join an organization that maybe doesn't really want to see us, well, that's what it's called, and we must accordingly force our... counterparties to voice their position, yes, because, oh my goodness, stoltenberg believes that the former nato secretary general and the current chairman of the munich security conference, believes that a temporary concession of temporarily occupied territories could be an option for ending the war, and we understand that if... at the previous nato summit , starik biden and with him, so to speak, the big euro-atlantic hawks would like to say: yes, we want to see ukraine in nato,

let's go, but they didn't do it, so do we understand that this is also somehow connected with that? friends, this is connected with the fact that ukraine says in words that it is getting closer to nato, internally it does nothing for this, so we know perfectly well that according to the military computer, the ukrainian armed forces are indeed nato armed forces, but nato is, let's say, a political-military organization, and the political component in it occupies three quarters, if the leader of the opposition is not allowed to attend the summit of the nato parliamentary assembly, is the country ready for nato membership or not? this happened last year, let me remind you, this year petro poroshenko, by the way, announced, in my opinion, in october, in an interview on the direct channel , he announced the date of december 4, and

nothing was done by the authorities until in a week, december 4 loomed and suddenly the tyrant rushed in and zelensky personally spoke about what could be done, well , this same initiative was voiced earlier, why didn't you take up this initiative, you were afraid that this was the first... in expressing this initiative belongs to poroshenko, yes and no, this is the interest of the entire state, what are you, the first place belongs to viktor andriyovich yushchenko, 2008, the bucharest summit and, accordingly, angela merkel, the predecessor, so to speak, of the glorious scholz, well and so on, and we understand that they had also quite an unacceptable position for us, as saakashvili, you know, did not jump. on the spot , mikhail nikolozovich was also told: "dear saakashvili, let's not build your illusory castles in the air regarding membership,

so the path, the agenda is one story, so to speak, full-scale membership with the placement of military bases and so on, this is the aggravation of relations with the russian federation, so i forgot, but isn't the fault of western politicians. for the war unleashed by russia, they believed putin, but did not believe ukraine, they didn't believe putin, by the way, i remember there are condoleezza rice's memoirs, when she recalled a conversation with president yushchenko in bucharest, and she said that yushchenko had tears in his eyes, that is, yushchenko and the ukrainian elite already understood then that any postponement of ukraine's accession to nato is an invitation. putin to attack ukraine. and not only ukraine. georgia. now we will talk about it too, because now the georgians are fighting for their european law. and we see that

the protests have not subsided for several days, they are gaining momentum. there are detainees, there are people who have been beaten by the police, in short, there we also see all the means that are available, well , not all of them yet, of course, there are water cannons and so on, they are being used now, but here the question is in general how this whole story in georgia can now affect the events in ukraine, because we understand that we have a lot in common with the georgians, but at the same time they experienced the war earlier, i mean the invasion of their state, they... experienced it earlier than us, and now they are experiencing similar events that we experienced in 2013-14 year, so i would like to ask you how serious you think these protests are now, whether they can grow into some kind of big revolution in the state of georgia, and whether this will force putin to balance between what is happening now in ukraine and georgia, we see that not everything is calm in syria either, well, first of all, putin does not have the opportunity

to send troops into georgia. so the situation is completely changing and also, and if the legitimate georgian government, well, let this government, we understand, be autocratic, let the election results not be too recognized, but if she, for example, turns to putin, it is impossible, the fact is that the troops are subordinate to the presidency of the country, salomeza robbishvili, firstly, 40 functionaries were dismissed from the ministry of defense yesterday. among diplomats, direct support for the people began, in particular, the ambassador to the usa, the ambassador to georgia, the ambassador to switzerland, that is, a large number of up to 40 diplomats have resigned across europe, now the georgian church is starting to support the protesters, circumstances are changing very quickly, i want to say that in ivanishvili there are mercenaries, about 200

mercenaries, well... those trained bandits, aunts, relatively speaking, and he has a separate salary for the so-called special forces of the ministry of internal affairs, which is already exhausted enough, that is, in essence, the revolution has not yet reached the ukrainian revolution of the so-called christmas tree, we, well, georgians have not yet reached the christmas tree stage, that is, this is still a shake-up, perhaps... what this shake-up will lead to if the ministry of internal affairs and the aunts terrorize the population too much, yesterday, out of fear , the police suddenly started taking georgian flags into their ranks, that is, this is some kind of hint that in essence the security forces are starting to get exhausted, they don't understand the point of further escalation, uh, mr. volodymyr, we have

literally one and a half... minutes left, maybe even a little less, we would like to return to the american case, in particular, possible transformations of the current government, will this happen or not? well, it seems to me that until new institutions are formed , already trumpian ones, that is, a full-fledged cabinet of ministers, so to speak, until ukraine. no one will deal with internal affairs, because for now, as i understand it, trump is starting to study the reports of these inspections that recently visited ukraine, and there, the corruption component, it is going off scale, these reports contain impressive figures, which is important, let me remind you that in american legislation , for crimes with american taxpayers' funds,

the figure... we hope to continue this conversation with you next time and thank you for including volodymyr tsybulko, political scientist, was with us in the meantime, we had an interesting conversation, so antin burkovsky and i are finishing our work for you today, stay with espresso, our colleagues continue to work for you, and we will see you tomorrow, so take care of yourself and see you on tuesday. it is 6 p.m. in ukraine and to your attention , the news broadcast on espresso tv channel , iryna koval is working for you in the studio.

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